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Wednesday, December 16, 2015

HELP WANTED - Elmendorf AFB Scarves

For my scarf identification project, I am needing some very specific assistance for certain places and times. Perhaps you can help?

Scarves with this repeating pattern in two colors were manufactured for Elmendorf AFB.  The blue and silver scarf was ordered in October 1991. The green and gray scarf was ordered in April 1992.  Which unit(s) were they ordered for? Could they be two version of the 3rd Wing scarf?




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HELP WANTED - Do you recognize this Davis-Monthan AFB scarf? (UPDATE - 23rd TASS)

For my scarf identification project, I am needing some very specific assistance for certain places and times. Perhaps you can help?

Do you recognize this A-10 unit scarf? It is believed to be from Davis-Monthan AFB. The timeframe would be early-mid 1990s.

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Thank you!


UPDATE: I've had someone write in and say it was 23rd Tactical Air Support Squadron at Davis-Monthan. 

Sunday, December 13, 2015

HELP WANTED - 7th Air Force, Osan AB, South Korea (late-1980s)

For my scarf identification project, I am needing some very specific assistance for certain places and times. Perhaps you can help?

The original owner of these four scarves is deceased, but served with the 7th AF at Osan AB from 1987 - 1989, and with the 13th AF at Clark AB from 1989 - 1991. 


He was Chief, Tactical Deception, with the 7th AF.  I'm thinking the yellow scarf with the trojan horse would be from that time. 
7th AF Tactical Deception???


Joint Forces Air Component Command

7th Air Force

13th Air Force

Is that correct?  I just want to make sure that being yellow, it isn't from the 13th Air Force at Clark.


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HELP WANTED - Shaw AFB Scarves

For my scarf identification project, I am needing some very specific assistance for certain places and times. Perhaps you can help?

These two scarves I am pretty sure are from Shaw AFB. They have some "DNA" in them that makes me think they are either Wing or OSS scarves. The problem is... are they from the 363rd Fighter Wing or 20th Fighter Wing (both or neither)?  Can you identify them?



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HELP WANTED - Which Company Made These Scarves?

For my scarf identification project, I am needing some very specific assistance for certain places and times. Perhaps you can help?

Did you ever order scarves for your unit? 

I need to know more about the companies that manufactured scarves for the following bases. In each instance, there is a distinctive series that were not manufactured by Rama World:

  • Castle - I'm looking for who made the series of scarves with the Castle AFB castle for most units. They look like this
  • Davis-Monthan - There is a series of embroidered scarves for the A-10 units like this.
  • George - In the mid-to-late 1980s, George AFB ordered scarves with this non-symmetrical F-4 pattern for most units. They look like this and are not manufactured by Rama World.
  • Mountain Home - The 366th TFW ordered a series of scarves that looked like this.
  • Vance - Embroidered scarves were ordered at Vance that looked like this.
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Thank you!

Saturday, December 12, 2015

HELP WANTED - Luke AFB and Homestead AFB F-4 era (late-1970s - early 1980s)

For my scarf identification project, I am needing some very specific assistance for certain places and times. Perhaps you can help?


Recently, I was able to acquire the scarves of an individual who was in a command position at both Homestead and Luke during the F-4 era (late 1970s – early 1980s). Unfortunately, they were all unidentified.



At first glance, it is pretty daunting. But, I have been chipping away at it. He had a Pentagon position in the early 1980s, so he must have gone down to Barksdale and acquired the KC-10A scarf (top) and 596th BMS scarf (blue with white stars) then. One of the scarves has a F-104 on it. That would be a 69th TFTS from his time at Luke. The pale blue/blue scarf belongs to the 309th TFTS at Homestead.

That still leaves a bunch more. So, I just wanted to appeal to anyone who was at Homestead or Luke in the late 1970s – early 1980s. I’ve separated out the ones that have some type of unique characteristic (not solid color). Do any of these look familiar?

Were any of these scarves used at Luke or Homestead during that time period?






Scarf 1 is two sided.

Scarf 2 is sewn with two panels.

Scarf 5 has a houndstooth pattern.

Were any solid colored scarves used?

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Thank you!


Wednesday, August 22, 2012

Collectables or Artifacts?

I was reading one of the popular USAF patch forums the other day and there was a discussion about fake patches. That discussion and countless others I have read before got me thinking about collecting USAF memorabilia. Specifically, is it a hobby or is it preserving history? This is important, because if this is a hobby, then these items are collectables. If it is historical preservation, then these items are artifacts. Since most people collect patches first and foremost, I’ll leave this discussion about patches, but it relates to flight scarves as well.

Are We Really Preserving History?

Obviously, collecting patches is a hobby, but a lot of collectors like to go on about how they are preserving history. I believe the vast majority of collectors are doing very little to preserve history and are just “collecting.” Having a bunch of stuff squirreled away under your bed is not preserving history. If you don’t believe me, try to give (not sell) your collection to a major museum or organization. The curator is going to say, “Well, you have some nice things, but I have no idea where they are from or even if they are authentic or not. Sorry, we are not interested.”

Without any context, your collection is just a pile of colorful pieces of cloth. Yes, you can argue that you kept them from the trash heap (or some pilot’s grandchildren), but as collectables, outside of a few hundred people, these patches are essentially worthless. Frankly, to most people, it is no different than collecting spoons or beanie babies. If you want your patches to be worth anything, it is going to be as an artifact (a historical item with context), not as a nice embroidered piece of cloth.

That is the problem that I see with just treating this as a hobby. As a hobby, it doesn’t really matter if your items are fakes or not. They are just curios. They have no context or direct historical association. Whether you got them from a veteran, a flea market, or made it your self doesn’t really matter to the rest of the world. Most collectors have no way to provide any context to an individual item or prove whether they are authentic or not. The most that can be said is that a particular unit used it, but few people have any documentation of when and where they were used or how it was acquired.

People like to tell me, don’t worry about that, “I know all that stuff, and it is right up here in my head.” Sorry to tell you, but as you get older, you are going to forget. Furthermore, most of what you remember are triggered memories. You see a pile of patches and think to yourself, “I got this one at this airshow when I got this one,” and so on. “So, it is from this era. It is different than this one over here.” Well, try to remember all that someday when a toddler gets a hold of your collection and it is scattered all around. Regardless, if everything you know about these patches is up in your head and when you pass on, your heirs are going to have a pile of patches and nobody is going to know any different.

So, if you don’t write this stuff down, it is not going to be remembered. Believe me, I’ve posted generic questions about scarves to forums with 3,000 members and only gotten one person who could answer me. I’ve also asked every aircrew and maintainer I can find. Sure, a lot of people don’t care, but also most people don’t know or they don’t remember. Frankly, many folks act like I have just asked them about what type of buttons were on a shirt they were wearing 20 years ago.

So, What Do We Need to Be Doing?

I really see a need to not only collect patches and scarves and other items, but to also collect history. To preserve history, your collectables need to be identified and have context. You need to be tracking what it is, who you got it from, when was it used, etc. You need to be looking for dates, times, units, and locations. You also need to be prepared to share this information with other collectors so that the hobby can advance.

I know that many collectors are reticent to share information. Some have a philosophy that “information is power.” In other words, I learned this and I am not going to share it with someone else so they can use it against me. Other collectors will not share information because they think it is “worth something,” or heaven forbid, somebody is going to make some money with it. It might be “worth something,” but look at the problems the news media is having trying to charge for online content. News is something that has a lot of demand. If anyone takes information about patches or scarves and makes a book out of it, the return on the book will be a small percentage of costs put in. It will be a labor of love. Trust me.

Other collectors believe that providing information only helps the counterfeiters. I believe that you beat the counterfeiters not by withholding information, but by providing information. Now, I am not advocating giving the store away. You have to keep some secrets (such as the reverse side) and only provide low-resolution images. But, if the average enthusiast cannot tell a real item from a fake, the counterfeiters have won. Without records and documentation, the counterfeiters will win, because there is a doubt on authenticity.

The way you solve this is to identify the real ones and expose the fake ones. Sadly, the main reason most collectors worry about a patch being fake is to preserve their “investment” of money acquiring it or time finding it. I have noticed that every time a patch is outed as being a fake on a forum, the next day, there are folks who I assume were forum readers offering the same patch for sale on eBay and trying to pass it off to some other unsuspecting collector. A few of these sellers will generously include a caveat and say something like, “this patch may or may not be authentic, I am not sure.” That is the most cancerous attitude a collector can have. If it is a fake, throw it in the trash or write, “fake” on the back of it. We have to advance this hobby or the true historical value of these items will be lost.

So, the question remains, are you collecting as a hobby or for history?